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Gender: Male
Location: RIR
Quote/Motto: You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you should concentrate on.
Favorite Driver: Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Driver I won't be sending a Christmas card:
Kyle Busch
Who Am I:
I'm a fan first, a critic second, and wrong a third of the time.
Favorite Track:
Talladega Superspeedway
Favorite Racing Moment:
Earnhardt, Sr winning The Daytona 500
How I discovered Rowdy, and why I Listen:
It's about racing, ain't it? What's not to like?
Why I'm a race fan:
I watched Buddy Baker and Cale Yarborough when I was a kid, and built models of their cars. I have loved NASCAR ever since.
What car/truck I drive now:
Chevy Colorado
My dream car:
Ford F-350 Crew Cab
Favorite Music:
Jimmy Buffett
Favorite TV Shows:
Lost, Nova, Mega Movers, This Week in Nascar, SpeedWeek
Favorite Books:
Culture of Fear, Freakonomics
Interests:
NASCAR, Physics, Computers, Mechanical Things
Dislikes:
People who slow down when merging onto the freeway.
Hobbies:
Tractors, Chainsaws, 4-Wheelers
Vices:
Beer
Virtues:
My forehead can be used as a signalling device.
Heroes:
Dale Earnhardt, Sr.
Those of us in Rowdyland who have been complaining about Toyota's dominance in the Nascar Nationwide Series were vindicated by Nascar itself today, as they ruled (without naming names) that engines exceeding certain bore spacing (read Toyotas) would have to reduce their intake spacer hole size. Here is the official quote:
" Specifically, the rule change requires engines with a cylinder bore spacing of 4.470 inches or more to run a tapered spacer with four holes measuring 1.100 inches each in diameter, compared with the 1.125-inch holes previously required. Toyota engines currently are the only ones in use in the Nationwide Series that feature a cylinder bore spacing of 4.470 inches or more. "
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I am not sure which bore measurement spacing is referring to, so if someone knows please share. But speaking for Chevy fans everywhere, I have only one comment on this action: WOOHOO!
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I'll be the first to admit that I don't know squat all about engines, but it seems to me that if everyone knows what it is that makes Toyota engines so much better, they should just incorporate those changes into their own engines rather than whinging about it and changing the rules. Why would anyone want to see these cars go slower rather than faster?
Wasn't it just ruled in the Nationwide races only? I thought that's what I read anyway. I think if everything else has to be the same then why not the engines. Hell all of the cars pretty much look alike, the uniforms, the hats, pit crews and now finally the engines have to match as well. Now if toyota doen't win they are gonna blame it on the fact that Nascar changed their HP. I just wish chevy would add a litlle boost of HP to their motors instead.
Hey Stilettos,
In this case, the change would require a new engine. The basic cylinder size and shape is determined when the engine is built. But I agree that going slower is not the goal here. Good, tight racing is the goal in my opinion.
Many people will say this is crap but I challenge everyone to look at what happened in the Indycar Series in 2003, 2004 and 2005. Honda and Toyota came into the league in 2003 and drove out Chevy. Then Honda killed Toyota which left the league in 2005. It wasn't much fun watching the races if your driver wasn't in the dominant engine du jour.
Why are you proud of this, Fins? Chevy was getting beat outright and couldn't narrow the gap on it's own. Sad really. All these proud American companies having to get a little socialistic hand-out in order to compete. My how far we've fallen.
At least NASCAR had to sense to address the whining concerns of Rick Hendrick and Junior this way instead of giving into their first demand, which was to let the Chevy teams in Nationwide dump out of the SB2 in favor of the R07. There are a bunch of smaller teams that are happy about that.
It won't do much to change the real problems with the Nationwide landscape, though. JGR will keep winning, and if JR Motorsports or Roush or RCR beat them some more, whatever. It doesn't make the series a better place when these mega Cup teams win, no matter which make they are representing...
Oh, BTW, I think they already had the parity based series you are looking for. It was called IROC, and I understand they sold what remained of their cars, parts and equipment at auction last March....
Again, this ain't the first time NASCAR has changed the engine rules, it was done in the 1970s, to level the playing field, KUDOS NASCAR, now do it again in CUP PLEASE!!! hehehehehe...
I agree with RacerX.If Toyotas are the better car then why aren't Wallace,Walthrip,and Stewart doing as well as Kyle Busch? I also believe it is Hendricks' team doing the whining because they aren't the stars this year! To me ,Nascar has done what they would suspend and fine drivers for;fixing a race!!! Tonight on NASCAR NOW on ESPN2 it was announced that Toyotas will be required to run 16 less horsepower than any other car on the track! I hope a Toyota wins Saturday just to show ,it's not the car but the driver!!!!!
Poet, like I pointed out on that other blog where you made this claim, here's a fact: Mopar powered cars won 5 NASCAR Grand National Championships between 1970-75, including 4 of King Richard's 7 titles. If NASCAR was tinkering with engines for the sake of parity during this period, they sure did a historically bad job of it.
I don't care how my driver wins. He can spin you, drive you through the infield and slam you into a school bus and I'll savor the moment without apology. He can win via rain delay, or by saving fuel and that's fine. But victory by whining for a mid-season rules change? No way. Go grab the kerosine and tie the rags, Theresa...
If anyone has watched the nationwide races this year, it is ALL the toys that are fast, verrry fast. They may not finish as well but that is due more to driver than car.
Boy, this is just so much ado about complaining, isn't it? First off, the Toyota's have been Dyno'd several times this season, and all the Toyota's were not the highest horsepower. The big complaint as I understand it, is because the #20 Nationwide car has won so many races, yet, the 20 hasn't Dyno'd with the highest horsepower, so if this is true, then the Waltrip car driven by Reutimann should have won most of the races. I don't think so....JGR runs a top notch Shop, with Top engineers and craftsmen(and/or ladies). It's not ALL horsepower, is it? I tend to agree, this is not the IROC series. Both Nationwide and Sprint Cup racing has always been made up of cars' teams working hard to find that Edge, ( but it has to be within the tolerances set forth by NASCAR Rules), ergo, was the horsepower ratings, tested by NASCAR, of the Toyotas,within the parameters and tolerances set by NASCAR? If yes, then why penalize them? I feel this should motivate, if not inspire the other Manufacturers to work up their programs to compete, not to bring down other cars to their levels, Parity--YES, mediocrity--No!
As Racer X pointed out, GM has built another engine to compete with Toyota, the R07, but Nascar won't let them run it in Nationwide. So GM has been penalized all season, in effect. I think that docking the Toyotas is Nascar's response to GM shops whining about not being able to run the R07.